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Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« on: April 06, 2009, 02:32:22 PM »

When I look at all your beautiful ponds, it's hard to find a pond that didn't use rock edging.  So, how exactly are those mounted into place so that they don't shift or fall into the pond?

For example, another thread linked a brand of pond vacuums, Oase.  Their front page shows some nice 4-6" thick granite (if I'm not mistaken) that looks like it's just floating there over the pond.  It's also sturdy enough for the guy to walk around on them.  What is required to build this kind of design?
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 02:45:41 PM »

Looks to me that that area of the pond is just a few inches deep and that large flat rock is in the water.

The rocks around my pond are just shoved into place and if I am not careful, I do knock them into the pond.  Some of them around the waterfall are secured with rock foam glue.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 02:50:19 PM »

Just buy heavy as possible rocks to set around the edges to cover the liner and hold it in place.  Fill in all the gaps with gravel or smaller rocks.

SOme people take granite and set a slab of it on top of two flat rocks or what ever to make like a ledge if you have enough room.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 02:50:52 PM »

I think I can explain this to you, there's a shelf around the pond that you put rock on preferably smooth river rock. It hides the edge of the Liner and also supports what I call the cap stones, here's a pic of one of my ponds there are 2 shelves on the right the lower shelf is a planting shelf.


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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 02:53:07 PM »

Here's the same pond finished.


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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 03:03:18 PM »

here's another pic


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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 03:08:19 PM »

Those are some nice before and after pics kk
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 03:29:00 PM »

I agree.  Very nice.

So how sturdy is this rock foam glue?  Could I use it to secure layers of flag stone, like how you have it around the stream?

Also, what prevents the ground from deforming and caving under the heavy rock?
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 03:38:27 PM »

Thanks VB, I dug that pond out with a shovel, I hit rock and spent 2 days getting down the last "10  that pond is  2  1/2 ft. deep.

I didn't use any glue, I've never used glue building a pond, If the ground is solid it won't settle to much. One side of that pond was almost solid rock, the other side I built up about "5 because I knew it would settle you want the clay type dirt when your building up the sides not the top soil.
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 03:50:53 PM »

When the day comes, I'm looking to rent a mini excavator.  I do have clay soil and it's not fun to dig.  Perhaps then, it'd work to my advantage to keep things together.
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 04:11:49 PM »

Did you see the thread "started my new pond today" It's in the pond and water garden show case section. I rented a backhoe to dig that pond out.

When you do get started , unless your on alot of rock it will settle some even in packed clay. I'd build it up a few inches to allow for it.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 08:20:34 PM »

Here's a couple more pics of this pond still in the building process. It looks like a mess because building a pond is a messy job.


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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 09:11:25 PM »

Another pic of the pond completely finished, I have my filter and everything hidden. I don't like the looks of filters and lines where they can be seen.


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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 09:16:34 PM »

Thanks for posting those kk.    Grin
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Re: Mounting rock around borders of a pond
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 04:40:58 AM »

When ever I dig a pond after I have checked my edges and leveled I always tamp it down to try and pack the soil that gives it less room to shift. I very rarely use and rock foam. Use to use it a lot on waterfalls to prevent leaks but in the last few years have gotten away from that.Now I  bring the liner up and over the entire waterfall and weir area and up the sides of the hole. I set the weir down on top of the liner so it is completely surrounded by the liner and any spillage or runoff falls down on the liner and flows back into the pond. I find that the foam holds up for a while but in northern climates eventually will break up due to freeze thaw.
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